OT: Anyone rides on Litespeed

Jake
edited April 2005 in General Fishing
Hi All,

Planning to buy a bike,
Anyone cycles this one B4?

Does it flex a lot ?

Thank you
Jake
  • Jake
    No One ???

    No One rides a Lite Speed.. or maybe a Seven or Merlin ??

    Br
    Jake
  • mindthesh@rk
    Hi Jake,

    It has been awhile since we last chat about bikes. :D

    First thing first, why do you want to ride a litespeed? Is it becoz of its wt? As you should know, all super lite bikes has its pro and cons. A seven or merlin... too posh a bike to ride unless you dont mind burning your savings. :idea:

    What do you want to ride it on? Off road or on the road, with slicks or off road tires? :?: :?:

    The frame is pretty rigid to my knowledge as my good friend has one too, a hardtail. He uses it on the road only and not off road as he is pretty big. Furthermore, the frame is not painted, the sand and stones will leave their tatoo on the body for sure if you are planning to go off road with it. It is painful after a ride in the nature to see tiny holes on the frame. :!: :!: By the way, litespeed has a full sus bike in the house already. Which frame are you refering to particularly? Road or off road?

    Ok, back to your question. Does this frame flex alot?

    Assuming a hardtail. How heavy are you? I bet you are not using this for trails and off road, right? On the pavement, to flex this frame is not possible unless you want to jump with it. If you have a suspension fork in the front, for the frame to flex is even harder. Since if you are using it on the road only, I suggest you stick with a rigid fork which helps you in climb and sprint. Anyway, if you plan to trash this bike with stuns, you are in the wrong house. :idea: :idea:

    Now, if you just want to ride this on the road, why not get a road bike instead? :wink:

    Riding a cross breed is also pretty cool. A mountain bike frame with slicks will leave your buddies behind and you will be ahead in the pack if they all have off road tires. :lol:

    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.

    Before you commit, there's a lot of questions to consider. I would suggest that you do some serious research and write in down and compare the pros and cons to have this litespeed in your inventory. By the way, no point buying a super lite bike and use normal parts on the frame as this greatly defeat the purpose for the frame to be light, in my opinion only. Since you want it light, why not let it be super light!?!

    Good luck in your bike search!
  • learning2flyfish
    I ride a Litespeed 96 model OBED. I think its a beautiful bike.. flex.. not really lar. Have cycled a merlin. Beautiful bike.. saw a few at treknology bikes3 at holland grove.. mayb u can go look there. hope this helps.
  • Jake
    mindthesh@rk" said:
    Hi Jake,

    It has been awhile since we last chat about bikes. :D

    First thing first, why do you want to ride a litespeed? Is it becoz of its wt? As you should know, all super lite bikes has its pro and cons.
    True.... cos i got a lobang for a lookout mountain
    A seven or merlin... too posh a bike to ride unless you dont mind burning your savings. :idea:
    Too ex...

    What do you want to ride it on? Off road or on the road, with slicks or off road tires? :?: :?:
    80% on road.Slick tyres
    The frame is pretty rigid to my knowledge as my good friend has one too, a hardtail. He uses it on the road only and not off road as he is pretty big. Furthermore, the frame is not painted, the sand and stones will leave their tatoo on the body for sure if you are planning to go off road with it. It is painful after a ride in the nature to see tiny holes on the frame. :!: :!: By the way, litespeed has a full sus bike in the house already.
    Full sus loses to hardtime in terms of spped on straight rd.(my view)
    Which frame are you refering to particularly? Road or off road?
    LightSpeed Lookout Mountain.(Higher range tan Pisgah lower range than Tanasi)

    Ok, back to your question. Does this frame flex alot?

    Assuming a hardtail. How heavy are you? I bet you are not using this for trails and off road, right? On the pavement, to flex this frame is not possible unless you want to jump with it. If you have a suspension fork in the front, for the frame to flex is even harder. Since if you are using it on the road only, I suggest you stick with a rigid fork which helps you in climb and sprint. Anyway, if you plan to trash this bike with stuns, you are in the wrong house. :idea: :idea:

    Too old to stunts.... scared bones break.. :lol:

    Now, if you just want to ride this on the road, why not get a road bike instead? :wink:

    tmlim has a very good road bike,TREK Carbon
    My reason: Not rugged enough.

    Riding a cross breed is also pretty cool. A mountain bike frame with slicks will leave your buddies behind and you will be ahead in the pack if they all have off road tires. :lol:

    My intention.... :lol:

    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.

    Before you commit, there's a lot of questions to consider. I would suggest that you do some serious research and write in down and compare the pros and cons to have this litespeed in your inventory. By the way, no point buying a super lite bike and use normal parts on the frame as this greatly defeat the purpose for the frame to be light, in my opinion only. Since you want it light, why not let it be super light!?!

    Weight weenie... i'm almost, but it will also make my wallet super lightweight as well... :lol:

    Good luck in your bike search!

    Thanks for your info...i know who to look for when it comes to bike questions.


    Br
    Jake
  • crabbies
    Jake, go Carrefour suntec take a look lah.. the MTB there quite ok also.. price n range still can make it :D
  • physlo2
    Hi Jake,

    Are planning to do off-road or long distance riding? If you have the spare cash to burn, then why not. For me i rather use the money for overseas fishing trip..he..he.. :)

    Cheers!
    physlo2..
  • Jake
    crabbies" said:
    Jake, go Carrefour suntec take a look lah.. the MTB there quite ok also.. price n range still can make it :D
    The weight cannot make it....
    Thanks for the info..

    Jake
  • Jake
    physlo2" said:
    Hi Jake,

    Are planning to do off-road or long distance riding? If you have the spare cash to burn, then why not. For me i rather use the money for overseas fishing trip..he..he.. :)

    Cheers!
    physlo2..
    Off road ? 20%, on road 80%,i need a light fast bike.

    One trip the money's is gone...


    Thanks
    Jake
  • Achilles
    mindthesh@rk" said:

    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.
    Hi bro, keen on the the bike u mentioned above? care to share the link? almost sell my bike n retired from mountainbiking..until a fellowkaki turn me back on again... still prefer light bikes... juz realised i dun have the same stamina which i used to have...

    Jake, i shared the same sentiments as u.... btw, guys any good slick tire dat can be use off-road as well?

    Cheers!
  • mindthesh@rk
    Achilles" said:
    [quote="mindthesh@rk"]
    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.
    Hi bro, keen on the the bike u mentioned above? care to share the link? almost sell my bike n retired from mountainbiking..until a fellowkaki turn me back on again... still prefer light bikes... juz realised i dun have the same stamina which i used to have...

    Jake, i shared the same sentiments as u.... btw, guys any good slick tire dat can be use off-road as well?

    Cheers![/quote]

    Hi Achilles,

    The link http://www.christini.com/
    This bike is not going to be a light one but it isnt too heavy too. If you are a weight weenie, you might not consider this. If you are hardcore xc, you will need this innovation to beat your buddies in that mud pool and slippery slope when performance outweighs weight. No more slipping behind!!!

    If you look carefully through the construction of the whole bike, you will find custom this and custom that. This is a bike with custom White Brothers Fork. I personally has the 2004 WB XC 0.8 and this fork is solid! Pls ride one to understand what I mean. At first I have a SID Team 2004 and after I tried on the WB, the SID Team 2004 is collecting dust in TEF. With this bike, you cant upgrade or downgrade certain things as the AWD is a custom system. Read more about it in the webbie. It is very interesting and this technology is creeping its way into scramblers. This just might be the next big thing in the MTB industries.

    Have fun!
  • Jake
    Mind the shark,

    Call me at 91460686 if you see this msg.
    Thank you.
    PM not functioning as i've yet to make payment.. :wink:

    Jake
  • physlo2
    Achilles" said:
    [quote="mindthesh@rk"]
    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.
    Hi bro, keen on the the bike u mentioned above? care to share the link? almost sell my bike n retired from mountainbiking..until a fellowkaki turn me back on again... still prefer light bikes... juz realised i dun have the same stamina which i used to have...

    Jake, i shared the same sentiments as u.... btw, guys any good slick tire dat can be use off-road as well?

    Cheers![/quote]

    I'm currently using Maxxis Larsen TT. I find it's good for both road and off-road.

    Jake,
    You might want to check with Gemini. He's a bike specialist. SMS me for his number if you're interested.

    cheers!
    physlo..
  • Jake
    physlo2" said:
    [quote="Achilles"][quote="mindthesh@rk"]
    By the way, just for your info, the one and only all wheels drive mountain bike is about to touch down Singapore soon. If you are planning to spend a pretty handsome sum for a bike, why not give this some thoughts.
    Hi bro, keen on the the bike u mentioned above? care to share the link? almost sell my bike n retired from mountainbiking..until a fellowkaki turn me back on again... still prefer light bikes... juz realised i dun have the same stamina which i used to have...

    Jake, i shared the same sentiments as u.... btw, guys any good slick tire dat can be use off-road as well?

    Cheers![/quote]

    I'm currently using Maxxis Larsen TT. I find it's good for both road and off-road.

    Jake,
    You might want to check with Gemini. He's a bike specialist. SMS me for his number if you're interested.

    cheers!
    physlo..[/quote]

    i already had, he works for Cannondale..Nice bike.. i love the Caad 5.
    To him other than Cannondale.. every bike is made in China or Taiwan.. lol..can't blame him too.

    Btw is Scott too?
    I know Airborne is and Giant too.

    Like i was thinking, why pay like $3000 for a Alu bike and if you sell 2nd hand off, the 2nd buyer dun have life time warrenty.
    That's why, on Togoparts, no matter now sweet the deal on Cannondale is.. i still consider first.
    Or would you rather spent $3000 on a Ti frame bike? According to him.>Litespeed is made in China. :lol:

    But you are right.. he is a specialist.

    Br
    Jake
  • mindthesh@rk
    Jake" said:
    Mind the shark,

    Call me at 91460686 if you see this msg.
    Thank you.
    PM not functioning as i've yet to make payment.. :wink:

    Jake
    Hey,

    I would ring you tomorrow.

    Why not give Turner a try? Turner bikes are only built in USA only. Turner are mother of Specialized, but Specialized losts its appeal to the nich market eversince the factory set foot in Taiwan. Mr Turner is the designer for Specialized bikes and of course, the Turners too.

    I would admit Cannondale are a class on its own too. I test ride a couple of the Cannondale but in the end, I still chose a Turner for various reasons. One of the primary reason is because I got the Team version which has Easton's tudings instead compared those from Turner's factory, very much lighter compared to normal Turner Burner tuding.

    For your info, the Nitrous (a redesigned Burner for hardcore XC race) is already out of stock in the world. I am not sure if someone is lucky enough to ride one here locally.

    If you want to go off road at 20% of your rides, dont set your eyes only on USA made. France, Italy and other european made are pretty impressive. Leave the slick behind too. You dont want a punctured tire in the middle of B.Timah. Your rims might get damaged too when riding slicks in the trails. I know some guys do that and get away with it but I am not saying it is perfectly alright. It does not take too much brains to judge about slicks yes or no in trails. Or you could have two sets of rims for different rides. We are busy singaporeans, it could be a pain to switch and swap just before a last minute ride.

    Even if a bike is made in Taiwan, I am not saying that it is no good. It is cheaper to manufacture the frame in Taiwan and more people in Asia are e able to afford due to exchange rate. All these are market influence about profit making. Dont you see a lot of GT and Kona in Singapore? They are the best selling bikes in Singapore but made in Taiwan. Kids are stilling winning races with these Taiwan made ones.

    If you have the cash to burn, no one can stop you what you want to buy. A pro may not need a super good bike to win a race, but that doesnt mean that commoners like us have no rights to own that ultimate dream bike. If we are talking about world class professional endurance races, you need the best bike with the best parts to ride through the races. You dont want your brakes to fail along the race or chain breaks during a climb etc. If you have a dream bike, it does not mean that you must be a pro to ride it. If this ideal is true, many mtb companies would have closed shop long ago.

    Its your money, spend it wisely. :wink:
  • Jake
    Wise words.
    20% off road... greezz i also dun really think so.. make that 90% on road.
    It's the pedal power that counts.
    I'll still stick to slick.

    I even got people coming up to me and say " Ah boy ah.. your tyres "botak" liao, better change incase you slip and fall" :lol: :lol:

    Jake
  • Michael Lim
    Guys,

    what do you think of semi-slick threads. I'm using these on a Marin frame and well, so far I've not seriously thrashed it on any off-road course yet. Anyone care to advise on this?
  • Jake
    Semi slicks... have not tried b4,
    but when you use slicks, you feel more grip with the ground.Esp when cornering.
    But do not speed on loose sand or mud....

    Micheal, you want to see real skill ?

    Ask Edmund to show you.

    He can cycle freehand, set up a rod and reel plus running the line thru the guides.All this while cycling.. i damm scared when i see him cycle that way... :shock:

    Seen it more than once..... totally amazed.

    Br
    Jake
  • Michael Lim
    Jake" said:
    Semi slicks... have not tried b4,
    but when you use slicks, you feel more grip with the ground.Esp when cornering.
    But do not speed on loose sand or mud....

    Micheal, you want to see real skill ?

    Ask Edmund to show you.

    He can cycle freehand, set up a rod and reel plus running the line thru the guides.All this while cycling.. i damm scared when i see him cycle that way... :shock:

    Seen it more than once..... totally amazed.

    Br
    Jake
    Now that is scary... I won't do anything more than answer the phone while cycling... hahhah
  • Jake
    sorry to chat like that since PM not up yet..

    My gay spiderman icon for 2 yrs had been hijacked.. sad...
    new guy in the forum ?

    Jake
  • Michael Lim
    Jake" said:
    sorry to chat like that since PM not up yet..

    My gay spiderman icon for 2 yrs had been hijacked.. sad...
    new guy in the forum ?

    Jake
    Think so. But your gay friends pic doesn't seem to come out properly. Hehehee, mebbe you can save the picture and then upload it here on FK forum, then link from this forum.


    Cheers,
  • Jake
    Michael Lim" said:
    [quote="Jake"]sorry to chat like that since PM not up yet..

    My gay spiderman icon for 2 yrs had been hijacked.. sad...
    new guy in the forum ?

    Jake
    Think so. But your gay friends pic doesn't seem to come out properly. Hehehee, mebbe you can save the picture and then upload it here on FK forum, then link from this forum.


    Cheers,[/quote]
    never mind liao.... since others like to wear old shoes.. well... let them be.
    Nowadays togoparts also selling some Ti bikes.. interested ? there is a Merlin for sale too.. M size, 10/10. 2004 series.

    Jake
  • Michael Lim
    No cash for that lah...

    too many other hobbies liao.... Now have to look at cameras, binos and more fly gear.... hahahah
  • mindthesh@rk
    I have a tyre to recommend which can take on the road and offroad too which does not sacrifice much speed, but no way you can beat a racer with it. Anyway, the crank on the racer is already an advantage compared to a mtb's. With the tyre that I am going to mention, you dont have to worry your 10% offroad at all when you fix these on your wheels.

    Hutchison Python Lite tudeless, a super fast and light tyre on road! Bear in mind, this is a dry season tyre built to ride dry and not wet. Anyway, to ride slick or semi-slick on a wet day, this is like asking for it. I got these on my metal horse and I am really amazed with the speed I could go with it. Watch out for wet spots though, you dont want to get these tyres too wet. It gribs very well on the dru road and performs like slick. A very fast tyre even in trails. Do keep a watchout for pot holes filled with gravels and sand, you may experience slip during pedaling down hard over them. It is a fast one, do brake earlier than normal in a corner in trail as in Singapore, most trails are slightly moist. On the road, get ready to lean to shift CG to take that corner at full speed! hahaha. Dont try till you are very familiar with the performance of this tyre hor. If you fall, dont blame me.

    :P
  • Jake
    mindthesh@rk" said:
    I have a tyre to recommend which can take on the road and offroad too which does not sacrifice much speed, but no way you can beat a racer with it. Anyway, the crank on the racer is already an advantage compared to a mtb's. With the tyre that I am going to mention, you dont have to worry your 10% offroad at all when you fix these on your wheels.

    Hutchison Python Lite tudeless, a super fast and light tyre on road! Bear in mind, this is a dry season tyre built to ride dry and not wet. Anyway, to ride slick or semi-slick on a wet day, this is like asking for it. I got these on my metal horse and I am really amazed with the speed I could go with it. Watch out for wet spots though, you dont want to get these tyres too wet. It gribs very well on the dru road and performs like slick. A very fast tyre even in trails. Do keep a watchout for pot holes filled with gravels and sand, you may experience slip during pedaling down hard over them. It is a fast one, do brake earlier than normal in a corner in trail as in Singapore, most trails are slightly moist. On the road, get ready to lean to shift CG to take that corner at full speed! hahaha. Dont try till you are very familiar with the performance of this tyre hor. If you fall, dont blame me.

    :P
    Hutchsion have the series mosquitos too right ???

    Jake
  • mindthesh@rk
    Jake" said:
    [quote="mindthesh@rk"]I have a tyre to recommend which can take on the road and offroad too which does not sacrifice much speed, but no way you can beat a racer with it. Anyway, the crank on the racer is already an advantage compared to a mtb's. With the tyre that I am going to mention, you dont have to worry your 10% offroad at all when you fix these on your wheels.

    Hutchison Python Lite tudeless, a super fast and light tyre on road! Bear in mind, this is a dry season tyre built to ride dry and not wet. Anyway, to ride slick or semi-slick on a wet day, this is like asking for it. I got these on my metal horse and I am really amazed with the speed I could go with it. Watch out for wet spots though, you dont want to get these tyres too wet. It gribs very well on the dru road and performs like slick. A very fast tyre even in trails. Do keep a watchout for pot holes filled with gravels and sand, you may experience slip during pedaling down hard over them. It is a fast one, do brake earlier than normal in a corner in trail as in Singapore, most trails are slightly moist. On the road, get ready to lean to shift CG to take that corner at full speed! hahaha. Dont try till you are very familiar with the performance of this tyre hor. If you fall, dont blame me.

    :P
    Hutchsion have the series mosquitos too right ???

    Jake[/quote]

    Yes. You are right.
  • physlo2
    mindthesh@rk" said:
    I have a tyre to recommend which can take on the road and offroad too which does not sacrifice much speed, but no way you can beat a racer with it. Anyway, the crank on the racer is already an advantage compared to a mtb's. With the tyre that I am going to mention, you dont have to worry your 10% offroad at all when you fix these on your wheels.

    Hutchison Python Lite tudeless, a super fast and light tyre on road! Bear in mind, this is a dry season tyre built to ride dry and not wet. Anyway, to ride slick or semi-slick on a wet day, this is like asking for it. I got these on my metal horse and I am really amazed with the speed I could go with it. Watch out for wet spots though, you dont want to get these tyres too wet. It gribs very well on the dru road and performs like slick. A very fast tyre even in trails. Do keep a watchout for pot holes filled with gravels and sand, you may experience slip during pedaling down hard over them. It is a fast one, do brake earlier than normal in a corner in trail as in Singapore, most trails are slightly moist. On the road, get ready to lean to shift CG to take that corner at full speed! hahaha. Dont try till you are very familiar with the performance of this tyre hor. If you fall, dont blame me.

    :P
    I have used that on my bike before and frequently got a puncture when doing off-road riding.

    Cheers!
    physlo2..
  • mindthesh@rk
    Hi physlo2,

    You are very right about that. The python lite has a thinner sidewall which actually help to reduce its wt for wt weenies. A cut on the sidewall in the trail can be very punishing. Hutchinson claims that the sidewall might be thin but it will not fail if the cut is not deep enough. I had a few cuts on mines, but still rolling. Punctures are parts and puzzles of riding.

    If you go thru the lists of reviews about this python lite in UK MTB Review, you will find praises and curses.

    For my own opinion, this python lite is great only for dry seasons and on the road. Since jake is looking at 10% offroad riding time, I doubt this vice might get in the way unless he gets unlucky. What rubber does not get poked and not punctured. The speed of modern riders are getting faster each day with bigger guts and balls. With such aggressive rides, many rubber will still fail underpressure. We see alot of punctures during competition, dont we? :wink:

    My friend competes in the national level and used this before. He didnt have any problem with it and he actually won a race in Tampines Trail on them. :!:

    I am very pleased to see many actually rides here. I know a few more but they are not participating in this thread though. Maybe one day, we should all go riding and fishing at the sametime. We could chit chat about fishing and bikes till the sun goes down and comes up again. Good idea? :idea:

    By the way Jake, the python lite is not built for mud at all. Dont get caught trying to skirt through the mud with these rubber. You might get yourself into some deep mud. It is meant for dry weather use only.
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